Love Phoenix or Hate Phoenix?
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I find it impossible to meet people here. I live in Scottsdale and the people are either young and phony or cool but snow birds so they leave. Everyone that lives here hate the snowbirds and the transplants but this town would die without their money. Also, BORING no culture. I feel like I live in Bagdhad
— hate it
I visited Phoenix to see my good high school friend and fell in love. Although I will desperately miss the meadows and forests of my native NJ I will NOT miss being below poverty level with a salary of 30,000. I am so tired of being poor. I grew up here and I cannot wait to get away from the drama that is NJ. Also there are no people of my "color" here (I am Caucasian) or age! I am 27 and have to hang out with 22 yr olds because everyone my age moved away or got married. I will gladly trade months of being snowed in for months of dry heat. There is nothing to do here unless you go to NYC, Philly or AC. In Scottsdale there is a great nightlife plus you can hike and there are lakes and forests not too far to drive to. I found the people diverse, intelligent and friendly!
— Paradis384
You seem to forget that all Americans, outside the Native population, are transplants. The whole idea of America is the freedom for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Who are you to say in what way and in what place a person ought to live their life and pursue happiness? The one thing most commonly missing from any unhappy situation is a very simple consideration for others. Simple decency and acceptance go a long way. I hope you're a poor example of what to expect from the "rightful" citizens of Arizona.
—Ricky555
The problem with Phoenix is its full of transplants from other parts of the country who were unhappy with their lives, and decided to seek the greener grass of Phoenix. This makes for a population full of pretentious, unhappy, low-skilled population. Of course this is a generalization, but you will definitely run into many of these types if you spend any time whatsoever in Phoenix. The city is also big, hot, crowded, run-down (in older parts), and soulless. The good things about Phoenix are the winter weather, scenery, access to outdoor activities, and other amenities that most big cities offer. If you are thinking about moving to Phoenix, just realize the grass is probably not greener on the other side. Maybe you should actually try being happy with your current situation instead of chasing something else.
— Jimmy
The only thing I hated about phoenix was the Snow Birds, They cant drive in clear good weather I hate to see how they drive in snow. prices go up when their here and they congest the roads and stores and cant even go out to eat or see a movie there are enough residents to keep the overly populated city to go on with out there money and obnoxious behavior.
— JARHEAD
A friend of mine who is in the auto business has a pet phrase "there's an ass for every seat" that fits most of the writers here. Phoenix fits some and not others. I lived there for several years, then went to Las Vegas, Salt Lake City, Louisville, Richmond, Indianapolis, and now Wilmington, NC. Each city is lovely in its own right, has issues, weather that is different, financial considerations and so forth. Embrace what you have, love where you live, or find the right place for you. Phoenix was a great fit for us, as was the entire mountain west. We loved the open space, newer areas, well maintained roads and easy navigation in a new city. To those who bash it, your new city awaits you, but I bet it is you who needs to change, not your city.
— Flinchy
I have lived in New York City, Chicago and Detroit. I love Phoenix and think it is the best big city in the U.S. I mean sure Phoenix is not perfect but it is getting there. I think when people come here they expect to have everything NY, CHI, and LA have but Phoenix has most of that stuff and plus it is much much cheaper to live here. Reasons are: 1. Obviously the weather. I will take dry heat over Humidity any day. 2. Cost of living is cheap 3. The people are really nice ( It has gotten a lot more democratic than it used to be and will someday become a blue state) 4. A lot to do (To those who say it is boring and there is nothing to do here are couch potatoes.) 5.Beautiful sunsets 6. Great roads 7. Traffic is not that bad compared to other big cities 8. All major sports teams 9. Everything is modern and not old and rusty I will sum it up and say to those of you who like LA, NY, or Chicago and like the rude people, high cost of living, miserable weather, and congested cities. Leave
— mr. truth
I have to step in an defend Ron from all the idiots who are attacking him for hating Phoenix. That is most likely because those attacking him are the kind of human garbage who make Phoenix and the valley a bad place to live. Most of these selfish people are idiots who came out here for the weather. I've lived here for 26 years and have learned that most of the people here in general are just selfish messed up people and it especially shows on the roads. Over the course of the last 26 years I've witnessed this trend growning worse and worse when I'm on any of the surface streets or valley freeways. It gets worse when you add the snow birds who migrate out here each winter as they add an extra element of danger on the roads. Phoenix and all the cities of the valley suck as they are just too full of white trash, selfish people and human garbage. If you can move out to Carefree, Cave Creek or further north, you will encounter a greater occurrance of decent people.
— Dennis
IF you like this HELL's sand box, well then I say more power to ya!! This hellish sandbox full of moronic idiots who have not a brain cell to spare can savor the demon breath of this city and fade away with it as it gets swallowed up by the devil himself!! You can tell the immediate IQ of a city by the way it people are on the roads. Here in the Phoenix metro area, the majority of people drive without care and act very selfish on our roads. Now, if they had a cell in their brains to spare, I'm sure they would begin to realize that they have been being self-centered morons and work on cleaning up their act. I will say that there IS beauty in this city... but it is all of the Moronic people here that ruin its spirit. And then we have the people whom are out to prove what they think is right and try to convince all of their friends and family to move here. Well, don't you think we have enough MORONS here???
— Ron
I've lived in Arizona for the past eight months, and have slowly come to realize that Phoenix is about as lovable as a tumble weed. It's thee most boring place I've ever seen. The only good that I have seen in Phoenix has been bands that make their way through the valley; not the ones that live here. The music scene is about half a decade in the past. The downtown experience is horrible. People are too connected to their childhood friends to make new ones; the groups are too tightly woven to accept a new acquaintance. And not the least of these, I am so sick of the B.S. twenty year old or older fashion around here. Just let this American Eagle jacket, Hollister t-shirt, Abercrombie Boot cut Jeans & sandals crap die out already! Every single person my age is either hidden somewhere or married! Worst experience of my life. If you ever consider moving to Phoenix, only do so when you're one-hundred years old. Because apparently that's what everyone else is doing. That and buying new cars..
— Johnny
Just got here
I find it impossible to meet people here. I live in Scottsdale and the people are either young and phony or cool but snow birds so they leave. Everyone that lives here hate the snowbirds and the transplants but this town would die without their money. Also, BORING no culture. I feel like I live in Bagdhad
— hate it
Moving there!
I visited Phoenix to see my good high school friend and fell in love. Although I will desperately miss the meadows and forests of my native NJ I will NOT miss being below poverty level with a salary of 30,000. I am so tired of being poor. I grew up here and I cannot wait to get away from the drama that is NJ. Also there are no people of my "color" here (I am Caucasian) or age! I am 27 and have to hang out with 22 yr olds because everyone my age moved away or got married. I will gladly trade months of being snowed in for months of dry heat. There is nothing to do here unless you go to NYC, Philly or AC. In Scottsdale there is a great nightlife plus you can hike and there are lakes and forests not too far to drive to. I found the people diverse, intelligent and friendly!
— Paradis384
In Response to Jimmy
You seem to forget that all Americans, outside the Native population, are transplants. The whole idea of America is the freedom for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Who are you to say in what way and in what place a person ought to live their life and pursue happiness? The one thing most commonly missing from any unhappy situation is a very simple consideration for others. Simple decency and acceptance go a long way. I hope you're a poor example of what to expect from the "rightful" citizens of Arizona.
—Ricky555
Good and bad
The problem with Phoenix is its full of transplants from other parts of the country who were unhappy with their lives, and decided to seek the greener grass of Phoenix. This makes for a population full of pretentious, unhappy, low-skilled population. Of course this is a generalization, but you will definitely run into many of these types if you spend any time whatsoever in Phoenix. The city is also big, hot, crowded, run-down (in older parts), and soulless. The good things about Phoenix are the winter weather, scenery, access to outdoor activities, and other amenities that most big cities offer. If you are thinking about moving to Phoenix, just realize the grass is probably not greener on the other side. Maybe you should actually try being happy with your current situation instead of chasing something else.
— Jimmy
Snow Birds
The only thing I hated about phoenix was the Snow Birds, They cant drive in clear good weather I hate to see how they drive in snow. prices go up when their here and they congest the roads and stores and cant even go out to eat or see a movie there are enough residents to keep the overly populated city to go on with out there money and obnoxious behavior.
— JARHEAD
Loved Living There!
A friend of mine who is in the auto business has a pet phrase "there's an ass for every seat" that fits most of the writers here. Phoenix fits some and not others. I lived there for several years, then went to Las Vegas, Salt Lake City, Louisville, Richmond, Indianapolis, and now Wilmington, NC. Each city is lovely in its own right, has issues, weather that is different, financial considerations and so forth. Embrace what you have, love where you live, or find the right place for you. Phoenix was a great fit for us, as was the entire mountain west. We loved the open space, newer areas, well maintained roads and easy navigation in a new city. To those who bash it, your new city awaits you, but I bet it is you who needs to change, not your city.
— Flinchy
An honest response
I have lived in New York City, Chicago and Detroit. I love Phoenix and think it is the best big city in the U.S. I mean sure Phoenix is not perfect but it is getting there. I think when people come here they expect to have everything NY, CHI, and LA have but Phoenix has most of that stuff and plus it is much much cheaper to live here. Reasons are: 1. Obviously the weather. I will take dry heat over Humidity any day. 2. Cost of living is cheap 3. The people are really nice ( It has gotten a lot more democratic than it used to be and will someday become a blue state) 4. A lot to do (To those who say it is boring and there is nothing to do here are couch potatoes.) 5.Beautiful sunsets 6. Great roads 7. Traffic is not that bad compared to other big cities 8. All major sports teams 9. Everything is modern and not old and rusty I will sum it up and say to those of you who like LA, NY, or Chicago and like the rude people, high cost of living, miserable weather, and congested cities. Leave
— mr. truth
Phoenix Sucks!!!
I have to step in an defend Ron from all the idiots who are attacking him for hating Phoenix. That is most likely because those attacking him are the kind of human garbage who make Phoenix and the valley a bad place to live. Most of these selfish people are idiots who came out here for the weather. I've lived here for 26 years and have learned that most of the people here in general are just selfish messed up people and it especially shows on the roads. Over the course of the last 26 years I've witnessed this trend growning worse and worse when I'm on any of the surface streets or valley freeways. It gets worse when you add the snow birds who migrate out here each winter as they add an extra element of danger on the roads. Phoenix and all the cities of the valley suck as they are just too full of white trash, selfish people and human garbage. If you can move out to Carefree, Cave Creek or further north, you will encounter a greater occurrance of decent people.
— Dennis
HATE IT AND THE PEOPLE ARE ALL IDIOTS!!
IF you like this HELL's sand box, well then I say more power to ya!! This hellish sandbox full of moronic idiots who have not a brain cell to spare can savor the demon breath of this city and fade away with it as it gets swallowed up by the devil himself!! You can tell the immediate IQ of a city by the way it people are on the roads. Here in the Phoenix metro area, the majority of people drive without care and act very selfish on our roads. Now, if they had a cell in their brains to spare, I'm sure they would begin to realize that they have been being self-centered morons and work on cleaning up their act. I will say that there IS beauty in this city... but it is all of the Moronic people here that ruin its spirit. And then we have the people whom are out to prove what they think is right and try to convince all of their friends and family to move here. Well, don't you think we have enough MORONS here???
— Ron
The worst city (or cities) in America.
I've lived in Arizona for the past eight months, and have slowly come to realize that Phoenix is about as lovable as a tumble weed. It's thee most boring place I've ever seen. The only good that I have seen in Phoenix has been bands that make their way through the valley; not the ones that live here. The music scene is about half a decade in the past. The downtown experience is horrible. People are too connected to their childhood friends to make new ones; the groups are too tightly woven to accept a new acquaintance. And not the least of these, I am so sick of the B.S. twenty year old or older fashion around here. Just let this American Eagle jacket, Hollister t-shirt, Abercrombie Boot cut Jeans & sandals crap die out already! Every single person my age is either hidden somewhere or married! Worst experience of my life. If you ever consider moving to Phoenix, only do so when you're one-hundred years old. Because apparently that's what everyone else is doing. That and buying new cars..
— Johnny